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My review of Nyarko's art piece featured to the left:

Nyarko's artwork (to the left) was created in 2006 and was entitled "Tunnel."  It is quite amazing.  I enjoy and appreciate how Nyarko has captured circular motion.  The title makes one wonder if Nyarko (from Ghana) hasn't had an NDE experience.  I would like to meet Nyarko and discuss the painting.  Is it something that he/she actually saw?

If you click on the image (to the left) you may go to the original posting of the artwork.  Or click here.

(N.D.E. = Near Death Experience)

Real or Fake?  I have the answers!

Foreword: "Give credit where credit is due."

Eureka!  After about 4 years of intense study of the NDE phenomenon, with divine help (inspiration), I finally found the answers that I have been searching for regarding the discrepancies in worldwide NDEs!  I was so excited about this revelation that I instantly began to publish my findings here on Tuesday, July 29, 2014.

I believe that the information you will read on this page, you have never read anywhere before!  Therefore, I must copyright this material.  2014~.  (I don't have to, because by international copyright law, as soon as something is produced, it becomes property of the creator, and copyright law applies.)

However, I give permission to you to copy, reproduce, and share this material freely so long as you give credit where credit is due.

I do NOT charge for spiritual teachings/enlightenment.
Yes, perhaps someday, I will write a book and it will be for profit, but I will freely (and without charging people) divulge the information in the book.  The book is just to get the information out there to as many people as possible.

Table of Contents

I.  How to tell the difference between real and fake heavens (in NDEs).

II.  What is an NDE?

III.  NDE Statistics

IV.  My personal feelings about people making money from their NDE experiences.

V.  My own OBE (Out of Body Experience)

VI.  Religion and NDEs


Prologue

All NDEs are REAL experiences in the spirit realm, BUT....

...of the heavenly NDE experiences there are discrepancies.  Those discrepancies have troubled me for 4 years.  I couldn't figure them out.  Why were some messages from the "other side" different (even contradictory) from others?  It was only after I gave up trying to figure it out on my own, that the inspiration came.  [Thank-you, Divine Ones!].

 

How to Know Which "Heaven" is Real

Mini-foreword to this section:

Not all NDEs provide the same message from the "other side" of the "veil".  The Bible foretells that in the last days (and I don't think anyone would doubt that we are there now), there would be false christs, false prophets, and that they would perform great miracles that would deceive even the very elect.  (Matthew 24:24)

Ladies and gentlemen, I propose to you that there are false christs on the other side of the veil.

So, the inspiration that came to suddenly one day was that there are certain aspects of the NDE to pay attention to.

Let us now look at some examples:

NDEs  (Real and Fake)
(Please keep in mind while you read on that ALL NDEs real spiritual experiences, but the heaven that one experiences may be REAL or FAKE)

 

REAL HEAVEN
(of God, 'Source', 'Angels', and loved-ones who've passed before)
FAKE HEAVEN
(manufactured as a deception by the Devil and his angels, which can appear as angels of light)
TUNNEL OF LIGHT (pinpoint of light)

To get to the TRUE heaven, one must pass through a Tunnel (with a Light at the end).

Some do not experience the tunnel, but rather traveling toward a pin-point of bright white light.  (THAT COUNTS! in my book.)

Generally, no tunnel with a light at the end is experienced.

Note, some go to "hell" first and then a select few go through a kind of "tunnel" to get to a version of so-called "heaven", but there is no bright light described as being at the end of the tunnel.  As far as I'm concerned, it's all "hell";  And, the deception is perpetuated (by demons) to reinforce the false human religious views of life after death (especially by the Christian religion as it is today).
LIFE REVIEW

When in TRUE heaven, NDE-ers almost always go through a life review with a being to guide them through it.

The NDE-er actually SEEs his life and re-experiences it, while simultaneously experiencing the emotions of those with whom they have interacted in mortality.  No judgment is given, no sentence meted out.  In fact, the only person who judges is the NDE-er himself or herself.

Rarely is the life review experienced in the Fake Heaven.

There may be "talk" about one's life, and judgments made and sometimes sentences meted out.  Those judgements are often very harsh and accompanied by fear (see below for more details).

LIGHT / LOVE

In the TRUE heaven, there is almost always an immense loving light, which love is described as being ineffable in the human tongues (beyond human description and understanding).

The message is always about love (i.e., loving one's fellow human beings). 

FEAR

Peace, possibly some love, but often an absence of love, and instead a feeling of FEAR is instilled in the NDE-er.

There are 2-ways that FEAR is instilled, and the NDE may incorporate one or both methods:
(1) God/Jesus will speak harshly and reprimand the NDE-er.
(2) The NDE-er is frightened by a hellish experience in a place called "Hell" and then ultimately saved by a being pretending to be Jesus.

The true God would not do that.  God is love. (1John4:8)

Loving (kind, non-judgmental) Loved Ones

Not all NDE-ers see their loved ones, but of those that do, the loved ones always express ONLY LOVE.

Un-loving (harshly judgemental) loved-ones
OR....  just get to see loved-ones (with no interaction).

I remember one NDE where the man saw his grandfather and his grandfather started beating him with his cane.

Other times (and I think this is mostly the case), people will see beings that appear to be their loved ones, but there is little to no interaction with those beings.

   
Experiences of
 REAL heaven
(please notice the differences to the right)
Experiences of
 FAKE heaven
(REAL EXPERIENCES manufactured by demons)
Dannion Brinkley's NDE

Light at the end of the Tunnel?  Yes
Life review?  Yes
Light/Love?  Yes
Loved ones?  No.

Details:
He went through a tunnel and experienced a life review.
He met 13 beings of light (one of which was in charge).
He saw crystal cities in heaven.
He was given deep understanding.
He was given 13 prophecies.
He was told that he had to go back.

You can see/listen to it on YouTube.

Don Piper's NDE

Tunnel?  No
Life review?  No
Light/Love?  No
Loved ones?  Yes, but no interaction.

Details:
He says that there was NO tunnel of light.
He was immediately in the spirit world surrounded by beings that looked like his loved-ones that had passed on before him.
He was shown a walled city as described in the Book of Revelation, with pearly gates.  He saw people going into the gates one by one.  He was in line to go in.
He interpreted the experience by his own religion (Christian), and claims that the way to get to heaven is by believing in Jesus, although he was never told that in the NDE.
As he was about to enter the gate in the city in "heaven", he was back in his body.

See/listen to it on YouTube.

Diane Sherman's NDE

Light at the end of the Tunnel?  Yes
Life review?  Yes
Light/Love?  Yes
Loved ones?  No

Details:
She went toward a pin-point of light.  (Not through a tunnel, but I still count it as a TRUE heavenly experience).
She met hooded beings in a row.  (How many????)
She goes on and on about how unconditionally loving the light was.
She was told (by the light) that she had to go back.

You can see/listen to it on YouTube.

Bill Weiss's OBE  "23 minutes in Hell"

(This doesn't really count as an NDE, because Bill was not diagnosed as "clinically dead".  Bill, himself, calls it an OBE "Out of Body Experience" and vision.  He, himself, claims that it is not an NDE; however, I post it here, because it is similar in its contents to some NDEs).

Tunnel? Not at first.  Then, yes (a tunnel that connected hell to heaven)
Life review? No
Light? Yes  Love?  No
Loved ones? No

Details:
Was suddenly pulled out of his body at 3AM.
Found himself in a prison cell.
It was unbearably hot, and he was very weak.
Saw reptilian beasts that tortured him.
He describes the tortures of hell.
He claims he was lifted up (by a being that was pretending to be Jesus) through a tunnel (which directly connected hell to heaven).
He met a very bright light being whom he called "Jesus".
He was frightened purposefully in Hell, and afterward he was told to tell people about hell (because many people didn't believe in Hell).

You can see/listen to it on YouTube.

Raymond Kinman's NDE

Light at the end of the Tunnel?  Yes
Life review?  I don't know.  (He was only 9 years old).
Light/Love?  YES!
Loved ones?  Yes (met his dog)

Details:
Went toward a pin-point of light.  (That counts!)
Goes on about how loving the light was:  "Infinite Love".
Received a "download" which answered every question he'd every had (but doesn't remember everything).
Was told that our purpose here is to LOVE.
"Love is not just warm-fuzzies."  [Love is an action word.]
No judgment received from anyone there, only unconditional love.
Was introduced to "God" and Raymond describes "God" as an infinite number of points of light (of which he was one); all was connected.

You can see/listen to it on YouTube.

Howard Storm's NDE

Light at the end of the Tunnel? No.
Life review? Yes.
Light/Love? Yes.
Loved ones? No.

Details:
Goes out of his body and sees his body.
He was coaxed out into the hallway by fuzzy humanoid beings in hospital garb.
He was told to follow them, which he did for a long distance.
He was tortured by 100s, possibly 1000s of beings.
Then he was left on the floor.
He heard his own voice telling him to pray to God.
[He was an atheist], so he said, "I don't believe in God."
But, eventually, he did try to pray, and every time he mentioned the name of God, the beings around couldn't stand it.  [The beings pretended to be in terrible pain at the mere mention of God].
Then, he remembered a time when he was a little kid singing, "Jesus loves me" song.
He called out to Jesus, "Jesus please save me!"
The room got bright (from above).
The being (Jesus) in the light picks him up and all the wounds were healed.  Then, they hugged.  He felt loved.
Then, he had a life review and judgments were made.  "That was good," and "That was bad."
He was sent back.

You can see/listen to it on YouTube.

The message is two-fold:
(1) You can only be saved from Hell by Jesus
(2) Jesus judges you in the life review (implying some kind of reward system in heaven).

Comment:  In my opinion, the whole thing happened in hell.  God doesn't judge us, we judge ourselves.

A Teenager's NDE - Cardiac Arrest at 16 (Mike)

Light at the end of the tunnel?  Yes.
Life review?  Yes.
Light/Love?  Yes.
Loved ones?  Yes  (Grandma)

Details:
He saw his dead body.
Then, he went into the hall and sees a bright, warm light.
He walks to the end of the hall.
He went through the last door and saw his grandma.
Grandma helps him go through the life review.
Grandma only expressed love.  There was NO judgment.
Grandma said that he had a choice to stay or go back.

You can see/listen to it on YouTube.

Nathan Wheeler's NDE

Light at the end of the tunnel?  No!
Life review?  No!
Light/Love?  No!
Loved ones? No!

Details:
There was no tunnel.  No family met him.  He just suddenly was there in the spirit realm and there were 4 beings there dressed in Roman robes.  They showed him around a town.  They stopped near a 60-70ft-tall building with a flat room.  There were pillars around the outside.
He never had a thought of Earth or his life on Earth.
The tallest being yelled at Nathan.  There was no love in that reprimand.  The being is described as being not angry, but very stern, telling Nathan to "Get to work!"
Suddenly, a portal opened up below and Nathan was sucked down.
Then, he was back in his body.

You can see/listen to it on YouTube.

Susan Dayton's NDEs

Light at the end of the tunnel?  Yes.
Life review?  Yes.
Light/Love?  Yes.
Loved ones?  I don't know.

1st NDE
She had a life review.

2nd NDE
A portal opened and she went through the portal, through a tunnel toward a light that was so intense and so beautiful, full of love.
Upon arriving in the light, she was given a choice to come back.
She chose to come back because her children were so young.

You can see/listen to it on YouTube.

Paige Torgerson's  Vision (not NDE)

Light at the end of the tunnel?  No.
Life review?  Yes.
Light/Love?  Yes.
Loved ones?  No.

Details:
Paige got into drugs, and began to hear voices telling her to kill her family, including her daughter.  After 5 months, she quit all drug use and the voices stopped.  That night, she had her vision.
She felt "God's love".
Suddenly, she was in a prison cell.
No sense of time.  [That's eternity].
No sense of life.
She cried to God (Jesus) for help; and suddenly it was over.

You can see/listen to it on YouTube.

Crystal McVea's NDE

Light at the end of the tunnel?  Yes!
Life review?  Yes.
Light/Love?  Yes!
Loved ones?  No.

Details:
She was in a tunnel of light, heading toward the light.
She says that words fall short of describing the beauty and "amazingness" of the light/love that was engulfing her.
She says that God's true self is LOVE.
She traveled with God the rest of the way down the tunnel.
She saw herself as a 3-year-old.
She asked to go back and was told that it was her choice.
She choice to go back.

You can see/listen to it on YouTube.

She wrote, Waking Up in Heaven.

Dr. Mary Neal

Light at the end of the tunnel?  No.
Life review? No.
Light?  No.  Love?  Yes.
Loved ones?  No.

Details:
As she was dying she felt no pain and felt that she was being "held".  Then, she was out of her body, and immediately surrounded by beings that were overjoyed to see her and shared a mutual love.
She followed them to a land of beauty and color.
Then, they told her that she had to go back; that she had more work to do.

You can see/listen to it on YouTube

Comment:  This one is not a typical NDE.  I'm not sure how to categorize this one.  For instance, there was NO FEAR;  So, it was a good NDE, but I don't think she actually went to heaven.

Reinee Pasarow

Light at the end of the tunnel?  Yes!
Life review?  Yes!
Light/Love?  Yes!
Loved ones?  Yes!

Details:
She was raised Christian, but chose B'hai faith prior to her NDE.
When she left her body, she noticed that she was a sphere of energy.  She went UP, and up, and up, and up, until she could see the Earth, but with spiritual eyes, she could see that the Earth was an organic, living being.  She saw everything upon the Earth.  She saw that nothing existed without music/song.  She saw that there was a light that permeated all.  She moved toward the light, through a tunnel-like existence.  What moved her was her LOVE!  She through her love, moved toward the LOVE of all loves.  The quicker and closer she moved toward the Light/Love, the more LOVE she felt.  Finally, she merged with her uncle's light.  She was instantly aware of all he was and knew.

While that was a joyous union, she longed to move toward the Love of all loves.  She moved "through" her uncle and entered a sea of Light and Love.  She moved toward the "heart" or "sun" in the midst of the sea of light/love.  She merged with that sea of light/love and stopped being an individual.  Then, her consciousness came back together.

After that, she had an accounting of her life.  Her life review was presided over by a great being (but he made no judgments).
What was more important than the choices that she made was the motivation behind those choices/actions.
She came to understand that a pure and loving action was more important than any other achievement that she could have achieved in the physical plane of existence.

She was not judged outside herself.  She judged herself by understanding that it was love that brought her into existence, and made everything possible; and by understanding that acts of love were the greatest acts, and any act of selfishness or cruelty was the most destructive.

Then, she was given an answer to a question of her heart.  She wanted to know about the progression of the human race, and where it was going/heading.  She was shown holographically the evolution of the human race from the beginning until some time in the future.  With reference to the future, she saw a group of people called "The Just" working for a better, more spiritual (not religious), loving future.  Simultaneously, she saw great chaos and destruction, hate, and war.  The world became polarized thusly.  The HOPE of mankind was a white, marble building on the Mediterranean, representing the "religion" of "The Just".

Then, she was shown a kingdom of light.  She saw many people in that kingdom learning and working.  She simultaneously felt great joy in what she was seeing.  She wanted to enter the kingdom, but the being who was conducting her around, said, "It is not time."

Then, she was catapulted down a rainbow tunnel of light.  She was at the scene of her dead body.  She was being coaxed back toward her body by beings.

You can see/listen to it on YouTube.

Carl (Surname unknown)

Light at the end of the tunnel?  No.
Life review?  No.
Light/Love?  No.
Loved ones?  No.

Details:
Carl overdosed on drugs and alcohol.  He was immediately draged down to hell by demons/devils.
He prayed to Jesus to save him.  And, a hand reached down and pulled him out of hell.  Then, he came to.

You can see/listen to it on YouTube.

Comment:  That is a typical saved-from-hell-by-Jesus NDE.
Now, don't get me wrong, for I do believe in hell, because I've been there.  No, wait!  I know there is a hell [See my OBE below].  It is the place where demons/devils live; in a lower plane of existence.  But, I do not believe that it is a permanent place, and I do not believe that God sends us there.  We send ourselves there, by lowering our vibrations.  It might be a kind of purgatory (a place to be purged of our sins).

The problem is HOW we avoid going there.  Some say that you must believe in Jesus.  However, so many people who didn't believe in Jesus went to heaven (not hell).  So, that must be incorrect.  The only way to avoid going there is to raise ones vibrations, and LOVE others unconditionally.  Remember:  Love is an action word, not just an emotion.  The REAL Jesus taught us how to love our neighbor in the parable of the Good Samaritan.

John Ramirez  (Dream-Vision)

Light at the end of tunnel?  No.
Life review?  No.
Light/Love?  No.
Loved ones?  No.

Details:
John was a devil-worshipper.  Then, he was introduced to Christianity/Jesus.  He was torn between the two religions.  So, one night he prayed to Jesus and said, "If you are more powerful than my god [the Devil], you let me know or leave me alone."
That night he had a dream.
He was on a train.  When the doors opened, he was in hell.  The Devil chastised him, and said, "I will keep you here, and you will never wake up."
Suddenly, a cross appeared in his hand and the Devil pretended that it made him helpless [B.S.].  Then, John was delivered from hell, and he awoke.

You can see/listen to it on YouTube.

Comment:
Clearly the Devil put the cross in John's hands.
The Devil's strategy is clear.  If he cannot have people as direct worshippers, he will promote a false christ.  It's easy to do, because all of institutionalized Christianity worships a false christ of one form or another.
The REAL Jesus Christ advocated works of LOVE and righteousness [See more below].

Conclusions & Comments

REAL HEAVEN
It seems that in the REAL-HEAVEN experiences, the NDE-ers have complete freedom to go toward the light or not (although almost all choose to go toward the light, because of its appeal and attractiveness.  That sounds like the God I love and know, who gave us all freedom of choice, and will never take that freedom away.

FAKE HEAVEN
It seems that in the fake heaven, no choice is given.  That sounds like the Devil that I know.  He just grabs us and takes us to hell and/or a fake heaven.  But, why would the devils/demons be allowed to do so?  I'd like to explore that issue, if you will.

Perhaps (and this is only a suggestion) the individuals who experience the FAKE HEAVEN, (and often Hell as well), are at a lower vibration of existence, meaning they are materialistic, compassionless, selfish people at the time that the die.  Perhaps that is why the demons/devils are allowed to take them.  [Why do many pastors go to hell in their NDEs?]

But, why would the Devil want to convince someone that Jesus is real?

That's a great question and the answer (for me is quite clear).  It is clear that the so-called "Jesus" shown in the FAKE HEAVENS is not a loving god, but rather a judgmental god.  He would condemn people to an eternity in Hell simply for not believing in him (and/or not following his mandates).  Are you serious?  That has got to be the biggest bunch of B.S. that I have ever heard in my life!  Aside from being unfair, it is quite egotistical for a god to behave that way.  And, so, since Saul of Tarsus created a faith system, and since he made Jesus out to be something that he never claimed to be (a Mithra-like god), the Christian religion today is so far wrong that the Devil and his angels delight in perpetuating it.  It must be great sport and entertainment for them to perpetuate such a false christ and promulgate false prophets in order to promote that false christ.

The message of fake heaven:  no matter what you do, just believe in Jesus and be saved.  (Yes, there will be rewards in heaven for good deeds done out of pure love, but getting there requires faith/belief in Jesus).

THE REAL GOD
The real & true God, as seen in the NDEs displayed on the left side (above), exhibits a loving, non-judgmental being of pure love and light, who doesn't care if people believe in It or not.  It only cares about LOVE.

The message of real heaven:  The purpose of life is to learn to love all regardless and unconditionally.  [Love is doing, not just a feeling].

MORE COMMENTARY

I was raised as a Christian.  I understand the allure of a savior, especially one that died for us.  It's such a touching story.  It literally brought tears of appreciation and love to my eyes.  And, that's why many people fall in love with Jesus.  But, is it true?  Are the teachings of Saul of Tarsus true?  I think not.  Saul was clearly a Roman agent.  We know that he was a Roman citizen, who lived far from his homeland of Judaea.  But, he was clearly more than that.  He clearly had the power and authority to imprison Christians, even to stone the apostle Stephen to death.  That power could only come with great authority, such as being the leader of a battalion or century of soldiers.  How else could Saul have done what he did.  But, why would Saul be so interested in crushing the new religion of the Christians?  

Was it merely because he was a Pharisee?  Jesus did not come to destroy the law that the Pharisees so religiously followed, but rather to fulfill it.  That means he added more.  Jesus said that if our righteousness did/does NOT exceed that of the Pharisees, we should surely not be able to enter the kingdom of heaven.

For instance.
(1)  Instead of merely not killing a person, Jesus taught that we should not be angry with another;  in fact, we should turn the other cheek if someone should strike us in anger.
(2)  Instead of merely not committing adultery, he taught that we should not even look upon another man's wife with lust in our hearts.
(3)  Instead of treating women as property, to be easily "put away" by a writing of divorcement, men should not divorce their wives, except in the case of unfaithfulness.

Why would anyone condemn a religion that attempts to be MORE pious/righteous?  Was it jealously? Pride? Resentment?

No.... there must have been another reason.  You don't imprison or stone people for trying to be MORE righteous.  Paul must have had another reason for persecuting the early Christians.  And I'm pretty sure I know what it was:  His secret religion of Mithraism.

The point is that Saul could not smother the rapidly growing religion.  All he could do was drive it underground.  He knew it.  So, instead of turning Christians into martyrs, like Jesus, he turned Jesus into another version of Mithra (a common Roman religion amongst Roman soldiers of Saul's time).  He also totally contradicted the teachings of Jesus, by saying that we are saved by faith, not by works of righteousness.

Was he trying to make sure that not a single Christian (which he hated so much) would ever make it to heaven, by reversing the teachings of Jesus completely?  I think so.  Anyone who reads the teachings of Jesus, and then reads the teachings of Paul (formerly Saul), can clearly see that they completely contradict each other.

Paul's Christianity is a nefarious perversion of the message that Jesus himself taught.  The question is this:  What REALLY  happened on the road to Damascus?   

 

 

What is an NDE?

Dr. Raymond Moody coined the term "Near Death Experience".  Basically, what it is is this:  A person dies, their spirit separates from their body and they have an experience in that state.  Then, they come back into their body, usually resuscitated by humans, but not always by humans.  Sometimes the resuscitation defies all logic and scientific explanation.

Don't confuse the NDE with the OBE.

The OBE is an out-of-body experience.  This differs from the NDE in that the body does not die when the spirit separates, usually for a very brief period of time.  The OBE experience is sometimes similar to the NDE, but does not include as many of the same experiences.

 

 

NDE StatisticsAccording to Vince Migliore , the following statistics apply to NDEs:

Mr. Migliore takes his statistics from the International Association for Near Death Studies (IANDS).  [2001]

787 NDE experiencers had been interviewed.

54% had good, positive, blissful experiences.

37.3% had mixed experiences.

8.6% had bad, negative, and/or frightening experiences. *(see footnote)

There are some common elements of most NDE's, but everyone's NDE is different, almost as if it was tailored to the individual.

Footnotes:

* According to Dr. Kimberly Clark Sharp's research, as much as 14% of NDE experiencers have frightening NDE experiences (out of 2000 people interviewed).  [published on YouTube in 2009 but looks much older, like from the 1990's].

* According to IANDS' own website, there have been multiple studies reporting the following rates of negative/frightening NDEs:
17%,18%, 30%, 8.6%, and 15%.

I have taken the liberty of calculating the mean of all six statistics (14+17+18+30+8.6+15) 6 = 17.1%

More Info:

A large study conducted in the Netherlands showed that 18% of people who suffered a cardiac arrest and were clinically dead had later reported an NDE.

According IANDS' website, no two NDEs are identical and there is no element that is common to all NDEs.

 

 

Personal Feelings about
People making money off of their NDE

I have mixed feelings about people who have NDEs and then publish books and/or go on speaking tours to make money off of their NDE experience.  I do not think that God looks favorably on people profiting from their spiritual experiences.  I understand that people need to eat and they need a shelter to live in, but you'd think that this kind of information ought to be given freely, free of charge, out of love.

I also understand that perhaps the best way to get the word out is by writing a book, BUT $62.53 for a book about one person's NDE seems a bit exorbitant, doesn't it?  (That's the price of "A Room Nearby" by Daniel and Kathy Baker on Amazon).

I believe that all NDE knowledge and research ought to be given freely and free of charge, so without purchasing a single book by someone profiting from their own NDE, I present what information I have gathered from various sources.  When I know the source, I quote it.  Other information is from my own experiences and reflect my own thoughts on the matter.

 

 

My Own OBE:

I saw Hell and I saw Heaven.

(Free of Charge, by the way!)

You must understand the things I was going through at the time.  I had graduated from university (BYU), but could not find a job in my field (teaching).  I ended up working as a bus boy making minimum wage (it was not enough to support myself), so I was living at mom and dad's, until my dad yelled at me for no good reason (Oh! he had a reason all right, but it was completely inane and he had NO foundation to be yelling at me and censuring me, NONE!)  I moved out that same day, put everything I owned into the back of my Ford Escort and went far away to look for work in another state.

I had no decent job, no friends, no family, no girlfriend.  I had to work graveyard shift for minimum wage (again) and barely had enough money to pay for a room in a house.  I was in credit card debt up to my eyeballs and had no hope for a bright future.  So, what did I do?  Well, being a Mormon (at the time) I knew that suicide was out of the question, for I would go straight to hell.  So, every morning before I went to sleep, (remember I worked graveyard shift), I prayed that God would just take me in my sleep and put me out of my misery.  After about a month of praying thusly every morning and crying myself to sleep, I had an experience.  I'm not sure how to classify it.  Did I die?  I don't know.  But, I certainly left my body and was sent straight to hell.  I didn't realize it was hell at the time (only when I awoke).  That was twenty two years ago and I still remember the experience very clearly in my mind.

It started with me in a very dark place.  I felt as if it had no boundary.  It was immense darkness and I could see no boundary.  Although there was no light source, I could see in this dark place.  It was like a wilderness of rock and soil, no plants or animals.  I walked along a pathway until I came to a river.  It was a deep and murky river, and it was quite wide.  I stood at the edge of the river for a long time wondering what to do next.  I don't know how long, but it was long enough for me to wonder what this place was and why I was there.

Then, as I looked to see what was on the other side of the river, I saw a dark, gossamer figure coming toward me in a boat.  Finally, he arrived at the shore and bade me board the boat, which I did, not really feeling like I had a choice.  I mean to go back where I had come from meant going into the dark void.

When we arrived at the other shore, he bade me disembark, which I did.  I walked around my new environment.  It felt as if it was to be my new home.  Nobody told me that.  It was strange how I just "knew" things.  I decided to become familiar with my new environment.  It was very dirty.  I mean there was garbage laying around everywhere and nobody seemed to care.  Yes, I finally became aware that there were others in this waste land.  All the people were engrossed in themselves.  Nobody paid me any attention.  They didn't even acknowledge my existence.  There were people of all walks of life, all races, and both genders.  I saw two people talking (about themselves mostly, complaining about their lives), and I went up to them and asked, "Where is my house?"  They just ignored me, as if I wasn't even there.

So, I began to collect materials to build my own house.  I collected dirty, crumpled up paper, cardboard, discarded boards, bent nails, anything that I could find laying on the ground.  After a while, I felt that I had collected enough materials.  I needed tools.  I went looking for tools.  I asked, "Anybody know where I can get a hammer?"  Again, I was ignored.  So, I picked up a rock and used it to hammer in the nails.

After some time, it was finished.  It wasn't pretty, but it would serve it's purpose.  It would be my house, where I could retire to and be alone, if I wanted to.  So, I entered my newly constructed abode.  I felt good.  I was lonely, but I was the king of my own shack.

No sooner had I entered my shack and sat down to rest, but hundreds of people came running toward me.  My view was limited to the doorway of my shack, which had no door.  People came rushing in, screaming, fighting to be the first to come in.  They all wanted to have MY house that I had built with my own hands.  People got stuck in the door and I was horrified.  Some had come in and it was getting crowded, and I'm claustrophobic.  I began to scream, "Get out of my house!"

And I awoke so scared and sweating.

It wasn't until twenty years later that I would recognize the full significance of that experience; But at that time, I had enough sense to stop praying for death, because if that was where I was headed, then I didn't want to die.

Twenty years later

Approximately twenty years later, I had another experience.  This time, I'm pretty sure that I didn't die, but I'm convinced that I left my body.

I was in a beautiful, well-manicured town.  The flowers, the lawns, the houses, the gardens were all immaculate.  I walked along a pathway between the rows of houses, not a one the same as another, but all so beautifully constructed.  I knew exactly where I was going.  I was going to see MY house that was being constructed for me.

I arrived at my house and it was gorgeous!  Just as I would want my house to be.  It had siding of beautiful redwood singles that just glistened in the light, almost as if each one had been shellacked.  There was a beautiful, covered entry way and a nice driveway.  I didn't see anyone, so I went to the side gate and walked into the backyard.  There was the guy I was looking for.  He was doing the backyard landscape.  He asked me how I liked it.  It was nice, but honestly I would have done things differently.  I wanted a stream flowing around my backyard with intermittent pools of water, one big enough to wade in, kind of like a Jacuzzi.  I pictured it as I wanted it in my head as I looked around; but not wanting to hurt my friend's feelings, I said, "It looks great!"  After all, it wasn't like I was paying him.  He was building the house for me out of the goodness of his heart.  So, I didn't want to look a gift horse in the mouth, you know?

He smiled and said, "Come back tomorrow.  I should be finished by then."

So, the dream/vision skipped to the next day, and again I was walking up the same path to my new house.  As I walked into the backyard, it was exactly how I had envisioned it in my mind!  It was perfect!  I thought, "Now, I could spend eternity in a place like this!"

And I awoke.

What did it all mean?

Upon awaking and pondering the experience that I had just had, I realized what the first experience meant twenty years ago.  At that time I was selfish and only thought of myself.  Furthermore, I was filled with ill-feelings toward my parents (mostly my father).  I was full of negative emotions, mostly feeling sorry for myself.  So, where did God send me?  To the part of hell with all the other selfish people who only thought of themselves and what the world owed THEM.

By the time I had the second experience, I had learned to be selfLESS, to stop thinking about myself and think about other people.  My life had become about others, not myself.  At the same time, I was much happier, full of love and forgiveness for all people who'd ever hurt me.

I was reminded of the scripture, "In my father's house, there are many mansions.  There I go to prepare a place for you."  And there he was, preparing a place for me.

You see?  In hell there are no houses or mansions, or any kind of personal abode.  You are abodeless.

My experiences (above) are explained by one man's NDE:

Name of Experiencer Experience
Arthur Yensen Arthur had a conversation with a being that looked like a Greek god during his NDE.  It went like this:

Yensen asked, "How do you explain this intense happiness?"

He answered, "Your thoughts are vibrations which are controlled by the Master-Vibration. It neutralizes all negative thoughts and lets you think only the good thoughts, such as love, freedom and happiness."
Yensen asked, "Then what becomes of the old grouches?"

He answered, "If they are too bad they go to a realm of lower vibrations where their kind of thoughts can live. If they came here, the Master-Vibration would annihilate them. After death people gravitate into homogenous groups according to the rate of their soul's vibrations. If the percent of discord in a person is small, it can be eliminated by the Master-Vibration; then the remaining good can live on here. For example, if a person were 70% good and 30% bad, the bad could be eliminated by the Master-Vibration and the remaining good welcomed into heaven. However, if the percentage of bad were too high, this couldn't be done, and the person would have to gravitate to a lower level and live with people of his own kind.

"In the hereafter each person lives in the kind of a heaven or hell that he prepared for himself while on Earth. If you threw a small pebble into a threshing machine, it would go into the box - not because it is good or bad, but because of its proper size and weight. It's the same way here. No one sends you anywhere. You are sorted by the high or low vibrations of your soul. Everyone goes where he fits in! High vibrations indicate love and spiritual development, while low vibrations indicate debasement and evil." 

 

Religion and NDEs

There is a page by Jody A. Long, J.D., on the NDERF (Near Death Experience Research Foundation) website, which reports a survey study conducted by Jody, regarding religion before and after NDE.

I'm not going to reprint the data here; you can click on the link above and see the raw data.  What I find interesting is the numbers of people claiming religious affiliation BEFORE and AFTER the NDE.  The numbers increased for EVERY single religion including "Spiritual" AFTER the NDE.  What does that tell us?

It tells us that the Being or beings in the afterlife did not mention the ONE and TRUE religion.  Nobody comes back from an NDE and says, "God told me to join ______ religion."  We can infer from that fact that God doesn't really care which religion we belong to.

It ALSO tells us that many people tend to go back to or become more involved in their own religion, whatever that may be.  Not all go back to religion.  Out of 280 participants 7 gave no response for their religious preference after the NDE.  However, interestingly, no one reported being an Atheist after the NDE.  NO ONE!  The 7 who gave no response probably hadn't accommodated the experience into their psyche yet and hadn't made up their minds.

The question is:  Why?  (Why do people go back to or become more involved in THEIR OWN religion?)

Well, Jody gives her conclusions at the end of her "paper".  She concludes that people's religion plays a BIG part in how people interpret their experience.  However, she notes that after people have had an NDE, they are less interested in the dogma of the religion and more interested in the spirit of the religion.  (Her words, not mine).

Since God doesn't care which religion we belong to, what DOES He care about?  To put it another way, what is the message from the other side?

Well, let's read some reports of NDEs, shall we?  (I have only given the part relevant to the question above).

Name Excerpt of Experience
Jan Price Jan Price met a woman of "breathtaking beauty".  The woman told her:

"You have been only casually thankful for your gift of life. Be thankful each day for this great gift. Most people go through life never really appreciating it. The purpose of life is joy, and with spiritual understanding the physical senses are enhanced. Savor fully the loveliness of each experience. Self-awareness is the prayer of the heart, and to pray without ceasing is to play. Play with the joyful abandon of the child, absorbed in the delight of each moment. Let go of obligation and duty, and live for the pure joy of being."

and at the end of the visit:

"Remember, pray without ceasing. Play, love, laugh, live for the joy of it. Have fun. Happiness is holy."

Betty Eadie Betty Eadie met a being that she called "Jesus" in heaven was given answers to all her questions.  This is part of what she learned:

"Above all, I was shown that love is supreme. I saw that truly without love we are nothing. We are here to help each other, to care for each other, to understand, forgive, and serve one another. We are here to have love for every person born on Earth. Their earthly form might be black, yellow, brown, handsome, ugly, thin, fat, wealthy, poor, intelligent, or ignorant, but we are not to judge by these appearances. Each spirit has the capacity to be filled with love and eternal energy. At the beginning, each possesses some degree of light and truth that can be more fully developed. We cannot measure these things. Only God knows the heart of man, and only God can judge perfectly. He knows our spirits; we see only temporary strengths and weaknesses. Because of our own limitations, we can seldom look into the heart of man.

"I knew that anything we do to show love is worthwhile: a smile, a word of encouragement, a small act of sacrifice. We grow by these actions. Not all people are lovable, but when we find someone difficult for us to love, it is often because they remind us of something within ourselves that we don't like. I learned that we must love our enemies - let go of anger, hate, envy, bitterness, and the refusal to forgive. These things destroy the spirit. We will have to account for how we treat others."

Dee Rhoe Dee Rhoe saw a Bright, White, Light and merged with it.  The Light gave her so much knowledge.  Here is her summation of what she experienced:

"It was all ultimate Joy beyond any depth of feeling that I had ever had before or since -- and gave me a sense of, that life is a joyful game to be played and that everything will work out perfectly O.K.-- sooner, if played joyfully well, with love ... and later if not.

With trust and love, we win the game."

Arthur Yensen "To understand God, I believe one would have to be almost as great as God is. Or at least be like Christ who was in harmony with God. On the other hand, salvation is simple. All one has to do is to love so unselfishly that his soul-vibrations will rise high enough to fit him into heaven."

I'm not finished.  This is a work in progress.  Come back again, later, please.

 

 

 

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